Wednesday, April 19, 2000
Substance, Structure and Style
More work on mod_blog today. Had a discussion with
Mark about
separating the style from the module. As it stands, I'm not sure what to do
about outputing the pages. Ideally I would have templates that would
describe the look and feel of the pages, but I have no idea where to do.
My webserver does have PHP installed, but I don't know enough about the internals to hook into it. I'm relunctant to do this in PHP entirely, as parts of what I'm doing are messy enough in C (and no, I don't think Perl's regexs can cut it).
But it does look like I'll have to include some form of scripting language to handle what I want cleanly.
But HTML isn't exactly designed as a scripting language, nor
embedding one within HTML the best idea. That's another reason why
I want to stay away from PHP or MetaHTML, because of the mixing of
scripting with output—any formatting in the code is lost (more or less)
when you embed HTML (or any large form of output) in the middle of it. I
find it difficult to follow such code.
But Mark came up with an idea I'm pursuing. Turn the problem inside out
more or less, or rather, separate the large chunks of output from the
scripting. So, for instance, the HTML:
<chunk name="foobar">
<img
src="## graphic name ##"
alt="## graphic alt ##"
width="## graphic width ##"
height="## graphic height ##"
>
Today's Date: ## today-date ##
</chunk>
And the scripting (in a hypthetical language which doesn't bear any relationship to what I may end up looking like):
object graphic
{
string name;
string alt;
int width;
int height;
proc name { print name };
proc alt { print alt };
proc width { print width };
proc height { print height };
};
proc today-date { print gettime(); };
graphic name ="foobar.gif";
graphic alt ="[nothing here to see]";
graphic width =imagewidth('foobar.gif');
graphic height =imageheight('foobar.gif');
display_chunk('foobar');
Namely, in the HTML, anything between the double hash marks is a
call to a scripting object (or procedure). The scripts themselves can
output chunks of HTML, which may include scripting callbacks, as
seen here.
Again, that's probably not how the scripting language will look
ultimately, and for now I think I'm just going to embed the HTML within
mod_blog just to get it out there and running. That's not to say I
couldn't get this out with an embedded scripting language, but some of the
tools I want to use I still have to clear before I can use them and
rewriting the tools is going to take time.
The reason for rewriting the tools taking quite a bit of time has to deal with error detection and recovery, which is another aspect of conversation Mark and I are hashing out.
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